rights are more important than property interests. my philosophy is that everybody has a right to self-determination, other countries, women over their bodies, people about who they're going to marry. those are the kinds of things i would really like to hear her say at the confirmation hearing and she's not going to. as you say, she has been hiding who she is all this time. when bush was overreaching in an unprecedented way law professors all over the country were speaking out, were writing, complaining, objecting. elena kagan was silent. that speaks volumes. >> professor marjorie cohn, from the thomas jefferson law school, author of "cowboy republic." six ways the bush gang that is defied the law. and lawrence o'donnell of msnbc and the huffington post. great thanks for the debate and for keeping it civil. >> thank you, keith. >> that was easy. >> remember, it could be worse. we could be dealing with the british elections, labor loses, conservatives don't win enough. first, the conservative lib dem deal falls through, the labor lib dem deal falls through.